Yeah, Mulan. I wanna see it too.
granny
thought i'd share a picture with y'all.
i took it at a historic cemetary near where i live.
i didn't even think much of it until a friend of mine saw it and freaked out.
Yeah, Mulan. I wanna see it too.
granny
i've been reading this site for about 2 weeks.
the information and support here are great!
i'm trying to fade away from the jw's without having to da myself (because of my many jw family members).
Hi, Madison. Welcome.
I'm sorry you didn't get to go trick or treating with your son this year. I'm hoping by this time next year you will be reporting to us all what you'll be wearing.
These are wonderful forums, something unheard of 30 some years ago when I was df. I really have no lingering JW issues, but have learned so much since signing on over a year ago for the very first time. I recently switched to Simon's board just for a change of pace. I was stunned reading about the United Nation's episode - such hypocrites! and of course we now are facing this sickening pedophile issue. Anyhow, I'm always happy when a newcomer joins in.
Granny Linda
ive been reading these posts and some on other websites for awhile now, trying to figure things out for myself.
im still a jw, a non-believing one if you will.
i more or less grew up as a jw, my father was an alcoholic and my mother became a jw when i was a kid.
Welcome. Enjoyed reading your post.
My father (non-Jw) was an alcoholic, and my mom the JW convert. I was df at age 19. I'm now 5l.
At age 37 I found myself sitting in A.A. because I now had a problem bigger then ever having been JW. The irony of it all was through my sobering up the religious abuse issue(s) came to surface...and big time, too. Instead of carrying around their shame and fears; and yes, the self esteem issue always seems like a biggy for us, I was able to dump their religious crap into the toilet. That's when I really started 'recovering.' Soberity was just the beginning.
I pretty much look at myself as recovered these days. I found something that works in every aspect of my life...some positive principles based upon self responsiblity. Even at that I stopped going to A.A. after five years a die-hard promoter because with sanity came the ability to reconise too much of the same mindset that was all to familiar with the JW's. And I guess in all fairness it comes down to personalities because not all acted or spoke "judgement" just as I read not all JW's are hard hearted.
Today I'm so detached from my JW family that it feels good! My mom is still alive and we speak maybe once every five years. And that's if I should call her...which I chose to no longer do. We all made our decision. Whilst I detest Jw's overall, I no longer waste precious time and energy worrying about what they think of me. I already know they do not, nor do they care to really know who I am.
What's more important is that I know who I am, and be true to thine self. If you have not heard of John Bradshaw or Father Leo Booth, they were both very instrumental in my early recovering years because Bradshaw addresses the family dysfunction from various angles...and it spoke volumns to me. Leo Booth helped me with the spiritual angle and that wasn't easy for this anti-christian gal.
I have great respect for both men. Recently I surfed for Leo Booth and found his webpage much more commerialized...my opinion only. And I guess it can happen as one becomes more popular. At any rate, recovery is the most precious gift we can bestow upon ourself. So glad you decided to join us. We all have stories, we all have something of value to offer to the newcomer...just as the newcomer offers so much to us.
Thanks for being here.
Granny Linda
i know some of the people that come to this board, used to go to the beyondjw.com boards.
if you have then you might have known dana, aka wingedgoddess01.
if you did, i am sad to report that yesterday her 14 month daughter died.
Kenpo, I could not finish reading all the posts...I just had to write. This is truly a sad, sad thing.
I'm just sickened about this.
granny linda
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let's talk about this.. i have lots of friends on this board.
so..........can we still be friends, if i disagree with you?
Joann...that was toooooo funny! Damn, you women are so witty. Not to be confused with nitwit.
Kenpo, your a person after my own heart. I hate Yes people! GRRRRR. That is unless hubby is saying Yes to going and picking up the grandchildren - or letting me have my way...again.
But seriously, Yes people are so boring, and of course so predictable. You know darn good and well they will swing which ever way seems the more popular at the moment. Hey, when I first met my sweet, kind husband; he had just spent 22 years in the military. I told him right up front that I do not like Yes men, period. Well, I warned him years ago, so he's on his own if he caves into my whimes and desires. Life is grand, eh.
granny
care bears!!
the return of care bears!!
(i have also heard strawberry shortcake is making a comeback--tho i have seen no visible proof for myself.
Ya'll are funny. Thanks.
I take it He-Man is one of our super hero's? If so guess I'll have to check it out because grandson is gonna be our next national hero...that is when he gets older and doesn't whine about everything that hurts a little bit. Meanwhile he is definetly a Batman sorta kid.
Grand-daugher on the other hand is Miss. Barbie all the way!!!!! I just love being grandma. There is nothing to compare...absolutely nothing.
Granny, and proud of it.
well, i have been checking this board for a few days and love reading the comments.
i remember starting going to the meetings when i was 5 and continued till i stopped going to the meetings about 10 yrs ago......total of 25 yrs to the meetings.
i remember as a kid not being able to celebrate birthdays or stuff like that and wearing our dresses up to our knees....that was awful.
Welcome. Isn't Linda a pretty name.
I've been out for over 30 years. It took a great many of those years to find some mental stability aka;sanity and self respect.
Boy, oh boy. How well I can remember those feelings of not fitting in...always had the sense of being an outsider. Which proved to be a good thing in the end. The one thing we learn is just how alone we are NOT. I'm so happy when new people join any of these forums because recovery can be quite difficult, and when we realise the risks many have taken...well, it gives us a little bit more courage to proceed forward with our life. No longer playing by the script written by self-serving individuals.
I remember how the Tuesday night book study was removed from our home because we were "poor." What a crock of shit, but hey, keeping up appearances really matter to people void of compassion and understanding. We had plastic curtains on the windows and sheets thrown over the couch and chair. My, my, what a shame, eh. Talk about judgement and condemnation for the poor working slob. My mother worked her butt of on Tuesday so the house would be perfectly clean for those ungrateful pigs. No love lost on those people from my standpoint.
Somedays I guess the old bitterness comes visiting and it's good for me, too, to rant and vent. Usually though, I'm content to remember the positive that came out of a very disturbed childhood of JW. There is hope, there is salvation. We make it happen...not something anyone can just give us. But we are the truly blessed for having come out the other side a surviver. enough said by me.
Granny
well for the second time in one week, i happened to bump into another member of my old congregation.
(wondering what i have done to deserve this?).
so we chat cautiously at first, then she mentions that an elderly gentleman in the same cong is very frail and needs someone to look after him.
Yeapers, it's that good ol' hypocrisy running amuck that disgust most of us. Point well taken in sharing your experience with yet another "loving" JW.
Hey, for this very anti-Christian gal, it sure as hell isn't the Jw helping those in their community. When was the last time (or first) you saw any JW volunteer at a center that distributes food/clothing to those in dire straits, eh? OMGawd, even worse then just lending a helping hand to your fellowman, most centers in this town are sponsored by Satan and his "false religion."
I give a thumb's UP to any church organization that at least can tend to the basic needs of many. Knocking on doors with your interpetation of salvation sure as hell doesn't put food in a child's stomach; nor does it offer warmth on a frikken freezing day! Damn, I get pissed over this. So I'll refrain from scarcasm.
Hypocrites in the extreme!
Granny; who remembers my JW mom wearing the same dress for 3 years to meetings and out in service because she had 5 children to raise alone. Where the fuck was even a hand-me-down dress offered her! Well, you got it...someone might have to show a little compassion. Screw the JW's.
..because they have a head to toe beautifiying support system and you don't.. .
a few examples from ebaum's world that show the before and after of celebrity makeup application:.
christina applegate:.
Ya don't think that pic of Britney will sour Simon? Nah.
I was thinking of Oprah, too. I remember years? ago she had a 24/7 personal trainer/diet person following her every move. Under those circumstances I could look pretty snazzy, too. Ah, the joy of money, eh.
Mulan, you are funny. I like your sense of humor. It's refreshing.
granny
i love to christmas shop, but i have to admit it i am one who kind of leaves things to the last month.
but i feel the adrenalin rush more and it gets me in the spirit of things faster.
but i love to decorate early.
OH, I just love Christmas!!!!!!!and these adorable faces.
Scooter, you cracked me up. Same here with forgetting where I've put things away. No wonder I sometimes feel like I'm spring cleaning all year 'round...have to search through all the closets and drawers. So naturally it's time to straighten things up...Again!
We're fortunate in that the community center we volunteer at gets lots of new, and like new items. It's like finding a bargin anytime of year. Too, hubby and I both do home made items...his is wood workings and usually makes the grandkids something extra special. Geezzzz, come to think of it, this year has been so busy and crazy I don't think he's made that something special. Oh well. Guess it will have to be store bought at the last minute because we're paying off our credit cards before year's end. That's OUR gift to us...making major move come spring, and taking my son and his family with. AH, getting the little children's out of the disgusting, filthy, crime ridden city is a wonderful gift to us all.
Hey, Scooter...I'll have to get some pointers from you on country living. I left the farm as a youngster and now it's my turn to offer back to the grandchildren a healthier way of living. Their mom is even considering home schooling. My, my, I'm finding some joy after all in getting 'Old.'
happy holidays everyone.........hohoho. Or as my hubby says..."AH, Humbug!"
granny, of the "ain't it a great day to be in the neighborhood" class.